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AlexanderVH?, 2004/07/22 00:39 PST (via web) :
Comment I created OIPDev remotelink in manage.



jja, 2004/06/23 10:07 PST (via web) :
LogEntry Created OIPDev:June2004Upgrades for things to do after OIPDev:June2004FixList is complete.


jja, 2004/06/21 19:12 PST (via web) :
Comment We are back online! Due to the upgrade from Zope-2.3.3 to Zope-2.7, things aren't 100%. Please place any problems you find in OIPDev:June2004FixList.


JeffArch, 2002/11/15 00:13 GMT (via web) :
Comment More new wikis! OIPDev:OIPZWikiRestructuring, a companion to OIPDev:OIPServerReorg covers restructuring this wiki. OIPDev:OIPFutureServerPlan will cover moving the OIP's server from my home to...elsewhere.


JeffArch, 2002/11/11 00:32 GMT (via web) :
Comment Had a great chat with Andrius of MinciuSodasLaboratory today. One topic requires a new wiki, that of ThinkingSiteCollaboration


JeffArch, 2002/11/10 23:10 GMT (via web) :
LogEntry Sander had mentioned reorganizing OIP workspaces here on the server. So I'm creating OIPDev:OIPServerReorg


AlexanderVH?, 2002/10/31 12:49 GMT (via web) :
Comment i integrated zwiki and widget, by only making a custom header(!). So you can store special data in the properties of a wiki. I also have a wiki to list such wikis. This makes it easier to use wikis like records


"Jeff Archambeault" <jarchambeault@qwest.net>, 2002/10/27 17:16 GMT (via mail) :
Ok, this should post to ZWikiMailIn (it didn't), that's what the subject is set for. Tested already on OIPZWikiNews. JeffArch (moved up from the bottom of this page, doesn't seem to be using subject=wikiname to post to the selected wiki)


"Jeff Archambeault" <jarchambeault@qwest.net>, 2002/10/27 17:07 GMT (via mail) :
another test from an outside mail account (except I cheated and moved it up from the bottom)


AlexanderVH?, 2002/10/27 09:01 GMT (via web) :
Comment look more closely to OIP squeaky project life for a moment

squishdot discussion->proposal project->approval->active->finished

  • listing proposals. There can be a time lag for people to find each other. Just the squishdot article and postings or a specific form that describes the project?
  • approving proposals. To you create a zwikiweb for a proposal, or only when it is approved. What criteria and what threshold.
  • project status: proposal, rejected, approved, active... see sourceforge


AlexanderVH?, 2002/10/26 07:55 GMT (via web) :
Comment i added a small reimplementation of AnnoyingQuote : the zwiki header now samples lines from it. Lines can contain text or images. With images, keep in mind copyright issues. I don't know how search engines handle that.

If you create a dtml doc or method AnnoyingQuote in the upper folder, you can use it everywhere through acquisition


AlexanderVH?, 2002/10/26 07:44 GMT (via web) :
Comment the type icon of previous LogEntry items is also affected. New comments get a different syntax that does not suffer


AlexanderVH?, 2002/10/26 07:14 GMT (via web) :
Comment so there will be broken hyperlinks around when wikinames get wikified. Cases like this: '<a href="!WikiName" . I also replaced the MAin folder, to modernize the help


AlexanderVH?, 2002/10/26 05:44 GMT (via web) :
LogEntry zwiki code of 25-10-2002 installed, with one modification. There was a fix for superfluous wikiname rendering inside anchors, but it relies on python 2 or later, so i reversed the fix.


AlexanderVH?, 2002/10/10 22:18 GMT (via web):
Comment i replaced the upload of zwikicode (revision 10-2002). Added improvements and fixes to defaults.py, that were ready in zope but not in the defaults. I also made small changes to the zexp files. Please use this file to update zwikis


AlexanderVH?, 2002/10/10 19:47 GMT (via web):
Comment never mind. if you use one line per quote in annoyingquote, this code lets you sample it.


AlexanderVH?, 2002/10/10 19:45 GMT (via web):
Comment invisible without dtml :)

Content of the doc quotes


JeffArch, 2002/09/18 00:09 GMT (via web):
Comment Creating ZWikiMailIn for such issues


AlexanderVH?, 2002/09/13 07:43 GMT (via web):
Comment Jeff, it seems mailin is used in several ways, but there is some lack of scope. we should look for a mechanism that is still fairly general. Maybe it should be able to append reply to any wiki in any folder, but not create a new wiki. We also have other software. How to differentiate?


JeffArch, 2002/09/10 23:31 GMT (via web):
Comment In addition to the TTK work I've been doing, I've been poking at this mailin situation. I mentioned to Andreas that ZWiki supports mail in and out. Honestly, only mail-out works, as we haven't figured out how to get the mail-in functionality working. Let's figure this out, sander! :)


JeffArch, 2002/09/07 03:54 GMT (via web):
LogEntry Just posted an update of the MSAccess? "working mock-up" of the ThinkingToolKit? at this post at the main site along with an attachment of my current work and other goals/status.


AlexanderVH?, 2002/08/19 19:37 GMT (via web):
Comment i fixed hyperlinks in inlined pages. Heavy change. I think the code is much faster, since traversal is only once. No more inserting exclamation halfway the rendering to suppress further substitution . Remotewikilinks treats wikilinks as well. Remotewikilinks has become more general to inline any object. One problem: i get some unwanted substitutions inside hyperlinks


AlexanderVH?, 2002/08/12 07:09 GMT (via web):
Comment I tried to fix redundant ? hyperlinks in inlined pages. Difficult issue and not yet fixed. The code has careful attention sequence so that steps don't mess up previous steps. When you process twice you invite trouble. Actually, every change there invites trouble


JeffArch, 2002/08/11 21:50 GMT (via web):
Comment I'm still messing with MSAccess? and recently with "XML Spy" - I have even managed to get some MinciuSodasLaboratory XML data into Access throgh XML Spy. Still plugging. Vacation starts in 5 days!


oipadmin, 2002/07/30 14:52 GMT (via web):
Comment geturl is not used. and you have to call it with two params, from another page. what do you use to pop mail(to file, i presume)


JeffArch, 2002/07/30 14:31 GMT (via web):
Comment Researching best way to accomplish "mailin". There are several options available. Possible problem with the "geturl" script.


oipadmin, 2002/07/30 13:40 GMT (via web):
Comment i saw that you did sth with mailin . Can you give me an update?


oipadmin, 2002/07/30 13:17 GMT (via web):
Comment I also use a suppress email notification option that i could add here. often, for smallish changes, you don't want to notify. Either that or preview


oipadmin, 2002/07/30 12:40 GMT (via web):
Comment done, at least in logt_footer(which is used here). UpdateSubscriber? method is necessary in main folder to support update subscribers maybe add comment should be made invisible too


JeffArch, 2002/07/30 12:30 GMT (via web):
Comment Perhaps we should look into using usernames in Squishdot as well. As it stands, you could type anything into the username field, unless there is a cookie for the values.


JeffArch, 2002/07/30 12:24 GMT (via web):
Comment Very nice, sander! I see the subscriber list at the bottom of the page now. Perhaps we can hide this for anonymous users?


oipadmin, 2002/07/30 12:16 GMT (via web):
Comment there could be added an additional restriction to only mail people with access rights to this wiki


oipadmin, 2002/07/30 12:13 GMT (via web):
Comment So, this emailfromusername table should be protected(move up one level?). mixed usernames-emails are possible. if you want to allow only usernames, you have to set a property of the upper folder(openidea). Property is subscribeusernamesonly(set to 1)


oipadmin, 2002/07/30 12:05 GMT (via web):
Comment it works for this wiki. Add your username and email in EmailFromUserName table, and replace your subscription in this wiki by JeffArch


oipadmin, 2002/07/30 12:04 GMT (via web):
Comment I made a small addition to allow usernames in subscription. This makes it possible to screen email addresses from other users and also to restrict email to users(anti-spam)


JeffArch, 2002/07/22 02:24 GMT (via web):
Comment Lots of TTK work going on lately. Simultaneous work on the CMF product, an MSAccess app, and TTKDtD? / TTKXMLSchema?. All well related things. CMF Product will include the basic forms, queries, and objects needed to build a user interface upon. Everything moving towards the "rev3" look, although rev1&2 should work well before rev3.


JeffArch, 2002/07/18 13:55 GMT (via web):
Comment It could also be Opera, or local network settings - last comment worked normal without refresh.


JeffArch, 2002/07/18 13:54 GMT (via web):
Comment Could be - this server is running Zope-2.3.3, not 2.5.1 like the dev machine. System seems slow after posting comment - page reloads after edit without updated changes, need to reload page for the changes to be visible. Could be a caching issue I suppose.


AlexanderVH?, 2002/07/17 07:07 GMT (via web):
Comment i suspect some backward compatibility problems with this zope version. it's clear Simon did not take it in account. If the subscribeform doesn't even work.


AlexanderVH?, 2002/07/17 07:01 GMT (via web):
Comment what do you have to refresh for? to see your comment appended? i don't recall seeing that


AlexanderVH?, 2002/07/17 07:01 GMT (via web):
Comment i don't know how it is either. This wiki did not have a parent(anymore?). i set the parent to FrontPage and notification works again, the footer is correct again(has_permission returns true again).


JeffArch, 2002/07/16 23:06 GMT (via web):
Comment I've also noticed having to refresh the page after submitting


JeffArch, 2002/07/16 23:03 GMT (via web):
Comment I got that last one, but still don't understand it :)


AlexanderVH?, 2002/07/16 19:10 GMT (via web):
Comment zou het kunnen dat zogauw er een parent is, het mechanisme werkt?


AlexanderVH?, 2002/07/16 18:53 GMT (via web):
Comment the footer text says log in and edit again while i have logged in. ???


AlexanderVH?, 2002/07/16 18:08 GMT (via web):
Comment now that you say so, i don't receive them either. I did in the beginning though. What happened?


JeffArch, 2002/07/16 17:50 GMT (via web):
Comment I haven't seen any of your messages posted here through email yet. I'm assuming it has been working for sander?


oipadmin, 2002/07/16 10:16 GMT (via web):
Comment Remember insert only approach to merge. It had some problems that i could probably solve, but there is another approach: Resolve conflicts by refusing it but returning a merged text. That way you can apply your changes right away, after small corrections if needed.


oipadmin, 2002/07/16 09:41 GMT (via web):
Comment remark the useful subscribe option bottom left of each page. I also have a form to add to a footer, so that users can create a discussion and subscribe others.


oipadmin, 2002/07/15 07:50 GMT (via web):
Comment btw , the admin can change a setting so all changes trigger notification, not just append


oipadmin, 2002/07/15 07:49 GMT (via web):
Comment ok, i see you found it. This is mailout. There is also mailin. It exists, i just have to figure out how it works and what it does exactly(subscribe? append to zwiki? create wiki? Change wiki?)


JeffArch, 2002/07/14 23:58 GMT (via web):
Comment I'll try and figure out where that is.


oipadmin, 2002/07/14 21:42 GMT (via web):
Comment jeff, would you change the mail_from property into sth suitable? there is also an optional mail_replyto property.


oipadmin, 2002/07/14 21:40 GMT (via web):
Comment so now email notification works, with diff


oipadmin, 2002/07/14 21:40 GMT (via web):
Comment i changed Defaults.py. small change, zope 2.3.3 not handling sequence_item with underscore. then added folder property mail_from, which is a configuration issue


oipadmin, 2002/07/12 19:01 GMT (via web):
Comment nothing yet. i recall sth about the level(aq_parent.aq_parent) let's try a mailhost in root. Would need changing.


AlexanderVH?, 2002/07/12 18:41 GMT (via web):
Comment subscription works. checking whether i get the mail


AlexanderVH?, 2002/07/11 14:00 GMT (via web):
Comment FrontPage includes OIPZWikiNews. Frontpage is a good overview and navigation site. ProjectsPage? should list the Introduction pages of projects. I suggest to use FrontPage as introduction page and use another fixed name for overview+ navigation.


JeffArch, 2002/07/10 00:42 GMT (via web):
LogEntry Sander's latest oipZWiki upgrade is up-and-running. Embeded links like http://www.openideaproject.org should work ok now. (fingers crossed)


AlexanderVH?, 2002/07/08 06:46 GMT (via web):
Comment uploaded update of wikis. url rendering works again, subscribeform has small fix and needs testing, inlining remotelinks from other servers works. Inlined text from another server gets type External'. You can't create a zwiki with that type. Code quality degraded a bit. Cleanup needed(which would not necessarily lead to behaviour changes or bugfixes)


AlexanderVH?, 2002/07/07 14:07 GMT (via web):
Comment added RemoteLinks? page, to list pages of type Remote. I think rendering of plain urls was broken sometime, long ago? Hm, I keep adding to the frontpage too.


AlexanderVH?, 2002/07/04 06:53 GMT (via web):
LogEntry added LogEntry type, Comment Icon, Conference(formal chat?) type.


AlexanderVH?, 2002/07/02 08:26 GMT (via web):
Comment hm, comments should not have type log but type logitem. Added link to MAin:ProjectsPage the 30-6 zwikis have updated Defaults.py. If you add property ProjectColor? to a folder, the header and footer will use it. If you add ProjectIcon?.gif file to a folder, it will replace the oipwiki icon. Editform still adapts to length of text, but there was a bug(string.count misbehaving i think). the MAin zexp has changed a bit.


AlexanderVH?, 2002/07/01 07:18 GMT (via web):
LogEntry ok, log prepend(Logt for top) works, but the headers and footers have to be dtml methods, not dtml documents. Dtml documents have their own ids , which take over.
JeffArch, 2002/06/30 20:56 GMT (via web):
LogEntry What is going to happen? All of the wikis will probably moved to a WikiName!d folder, then separated from there. All will share common help files, so these can be removed from the existing wikis. So we'll still have the separate AboutOIP and publicdomain wikis, plus have an OIPZWiki? wiki, for sander's OIPZWiki? development, a ThinkingToolKit? development wiki, a wiki for members pages, etc. Or something like that.


JeffArch, 2002/06/29 18:18 GMT (via web):
LogEntry Let's try this again. I see it's adding to the bottom of the page (I hauled this up manually) by default

JeffArch - 29 Jun 2002

Ok, AlexanderVH?!'s new OIPZWiki99? is up and running. There's lots of new things to explore, but some things still seem broke. For example I can edit but not comment. Checking on some things before I panic.

AlexanderVH?(Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:26:50 GMT)

debugged zwiki upgrade. It's ready to be placed online.
JeffArch(Thu, 07 Mar 2002 18:51:36 GMT)
Update: revised OIPDev, and ThinkingToolKit? along with a couple other small changes. Stage set for a ThinkingTools wiki.
JeffArch(Thu, 07 Mar 2002 16:30:27 GMT)
Going to try and fix alot of loose-ends on this wikiweb and bring the development sections up-to-date, with pointers to the wikis on the dev sites.
JeffArch(Thu, 18 Oct 2001 19:56:48 GMT)
Just added some notes about the OIPDevSite? in JeffArchJournalOct2001?.
JeffArch(Wed, 09 May 2001 16:23:43 GMT)
Changed this news format to use sander's new mods

  1. May 2001 - JeffArch

I've just installed AlexanderVH?!'s latest ZWiki mods...watch out for strangeness! Making OIPZWikiExamples? to show everything off. Made OIPZWikiNews a "type 3"

  1. Apr 2001 - JeffArch


  1. Apr 2001 - JeffArch
  • New ChatCentral?, chatting changed forever
    • Still working on the rightbox
      • gets most recent from OIPMainChat1
      • Should it get the most recent for all chat rooms?
        • room selector could show room the displayed chat was posted in
      • could be a radio-button multi-select of rooms the user wishes to monitor, and will show last (x) messages from each room selected
        • could be done w/o ContentManagementFramework?
        • rightbox would list all rooms, selected ones would show last post
          • sort the entire roomlist by when it was last posted to...most active at the top
    • will probably reformat ChatCentral?
      • most recent from each room?
      • rightbox-able
  • Your Ideas Welcome! I'm chugging right along, so if there are some features you'd like to see, let us know!
  • I'm personally waiting for new CMF Skins to play with, but the dev site is mostly usable. Check OIPDevPTK?


  1. Jan 2001 - JeffArch


  1. Jan 2001 - JeffArch

New version of ZWiki running!

See that text-entry box sitting by itself in the upper-right corner? Go into UserOptions, in the bottom-right corner of the page, and add some BookMarks ! Neat!

There's also rudimentary edit collision detection and user tracking via cookies. See RecentChanges for a peek.


  1. Dec 2000 - JeffArch

I did edit this once before, but I lost it in a browser accident (konqueror).

To make a long story short, See OIPFest


  1. Nov 2000 - JeffArch

I just got sick of what the front page used to look like, so I changed it. I realize the tables need work, but I needed a better way to add a couple new links, and this is what I threw together.

We could make the front page read_only, built completely with InlineZwikis, as this portion appears at OIPZwiki?.

So I'd like to introduce 2 concepts: ProjectSpace and UserSpace. I feel these need some definition as we progress in the development of the OIP. I believe it complements OIPDev with important user/user interface issues.

It's late, and I'm on a roll. must go to bed soon, but having too much fun. Going to re-structure OIPZwiki? again before sleep.

Whatcha think?


"Jeff Archambeault" <jarchambeault@qwest.net>, 2002/11/08 17:29 GMT (via mail) :
Testing the change to the defailt wiki page per previous comment. JeffArch


"Jeff Archambeault" <jarchambeault@qwest.net>, 2002/11/08 17:41 GMT (via mail) :


HelpPage UserOptions RemoteLinksPage HowDoIEdit Last edited Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:53:57 +0000 by jja (You don't have sufficient rights to edit this page)